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Watch at: 00:00 / 00:00:20hey there folks and welcome to anotherepisode of crit hit interviews I'mArlene and we're here today withDanielle pellicer is that correct yesgood enough okayand one hey-zeus Leggero we're movingready good oh yeah since you guys said IWatch at: 00:20 / 00:40was allowed to call you JJ I will stickwith that from this point onwards justso I don't mangle your name because Ifeel so sorry okay perfectI'm very Canadian I feel very sorryabout all sorts of things but these twofine folks are from Mad Gear games theWatch at: 00:40 / 01:00developers behind a whole new world aswell as the upcoming kimono heroes soanything I missed there it's perfect wehad some other projects but this notbeing developed now so these two are themain things okay so I like to start offWatch at: 01:00 / 01:20mostly interviews just sort of like ineasy icebreaker questionso first off I'm actually gonna ask ifyou guys are coffee or tea peoplebecause or both I'm both I really likecoffee on tea only water for meWatch at: 01:20 / 01:40I don't coffee and tea for for me andfor GG okay okay so you just like makesure to imbibe all the extra caffeineever think you mentioned like before theinterview that you actually had what wasWatch at: 01:40 / 02:00it two French presses and is I have liketwo French pressestwo Italian coffee makers and oneNespresso machine and also I get the teafrom Taiwan from a guy who exports itsuper good so there I am I'm alsoWatch at: 02:00 / 02:20covered yeah yeah it's it's super solidI'm super jealous yeah we can always askhim about sameinto to Canada maybe maybe he's up to itoh yeah oh yeah let me know if he isbecause tea from Taiwan sounds prettyWatch at: 02:20 / 02:40amazing yeah I supposed to like aim fora more traditional question now and sowhat would be your favorite games thisboth you Daniel and you JJ for me IWatch at: 02:40 / 03:00think the my favorite game is Shadow ofthe Colossus mmm but it's a bit strangebecause my favorite consoles aresixteenth beats ones like is super niceWatch at: 03:00 / 03:20on Megadrive is very hard to to chooseonly one only one game I'm gonna hearthat but this is like Secret of Mana andSecret of Mana yes yeah but yes I thinkWatch at: 03:20 / 03:40my favorite game is that one Shadow thecolossal so the Tenniel yeah I I kind ofI have to say it's Mega Man 2 but IWatch at: 03:40 / 04:00really like but let's say our games veryinfluenced by Mega Man games it's justme it wasn't an accident I got a veryMega Man vibe from actually when we wereWatch at: 04:00 / 04:20doing the Loom daddyit was a little bit like I said oh Iwould like to do a Mega Man let's try todo something that it's like a megamember different you were just missingthe venetian blinds before the bossfights because you know all the bossWatch at: 04:20 / 04:40fights the Mega Man games have thoselittle metal doors that are basicallyvenetian blinds in theCave yes yeah it would have been maybetoo much it's it's I think it's alreadysimilar good stuff yeah I just havereally fond memories of making it tooWatch at: 04:40 / 05:00because the metal plate is amazingmm-hmm I think it's it's not only thegame itself it's it's also the musiceverybody when you say megamum musicprobably they know about this reallywily stage this is so amazing yeah andWatch at: 05:00 / 05:20also they for a holy waterthe music is done using the chip of theNES so yeah it's gonna sound similar toNES games yeah that was something I'dWatch at: 05:20 / 05:40actually noticed I also noticed like abunch the boss themes all had verysimilar sort of beats and like theirleft motifs between like a bunch of thebosses mm-hmm which was a very nes thingthere yeah yeah this kind of also alsoWatch at: 05:40 / 06:00this kind of trams looks like two verytypical for for this is nes games butyeah I suppose the note of gaming arethere any games you two are diving intoof late whether it be indie tabletopWatch at: 06:00 / 06:20gaming or otherwise I'm playing nowenter the can do well I've just finishedthe the last survey from Toby Foxyou know Delta rune oh yeah yeah theending of that is a trip yeah I've beenWatch at: 06:20 / 06:40I put the switch like when you goalready maybe and I really like playingon the switch instead of in the computernow because in Austria here I only haveto switch and I was I was surprised withthe amount ofWatch at: 06:40 / 07:00indie games that actually are coming andI really like playing in indie games andI also like playing Triple A games rightnow I'm playing Wonder song it's thisgame about a bath it's super weirdlooking and soup with gameplay but it'svery interesting you hear about it I'mWatch at: 07:00 / 07:20familiar with it I haven't played it yetbecause I'm very fixedly chunkingthrough games I'm doing and currentlyI'm juggling a cultist simulator to getsome just story things I've missed whichI'm nearly done has been heroes which isWatch at: 07:20 / 07:40a roguelike so there's just tons ofstuff to do in it and now I've recentlydived in to slay the spire and yeah Ipicked a bunch of case that are justreally long actually I also boughtPokemon let's goWatch at: 07:40 / 08:00the Eevee version and I I didn't playfor camera since like ten years orsomethingand I really liked it I even liked it itwas more casual this time go psychotoday even level my Pokemon to live ahundred super easy so now I'm finishedand I can just go to the next game Iprefer because right now it's not that IWatch at: 08:00 / 08:20have as much time as I had as a kid Iprefer if the game's not so super longhmm so here's a question to like voteboth of you is like on your officialwebsite and mentioned that you folksended up forming mad Gear games as aWatch at: 08:20 / 08:40result of well it was a tournamentrelated to go I believe and I'm curiousto know a bit more about that story andjust how it actually ended up leading tothe formation of your studioAmy you tell a little bit and OttiliaWatch at: 08:40 / 09:00another little bit okay same atstorytelling and there my little goplayers heinousso a and here he went when where I liveWatch at: 09:00 / 09:20there wasn't a clue a club so I decidedto to try and open one and create aclever a go Club I mean do you mean ohyes here in carries a so I I went toWatch at: 09:20 / 09:40some manga comics manga conventions andfind some people and then it was one ofthose people I was just a visitingvisiting the manga thing and playingWatch at: 09:40 / 10:00around and I saw this game but I I don'teven know if I actually played but mybrother was was talking with one for awhile and he was learning and then itwas a coincidence that in my universityin Sevilla they had a club also so IWatch at: 10:00 / 10:20started to learn and afterwards I madefun again and then we we started to playtogether and we became friends laterwith Miguel it was like this I was inMadrid in a tournament I think yes yeahand there was a piano there and I play aWatch at: 10:20 / 10:40little bit piano so I was playing atheme of castlevania symphony of tonightand we didn't we didn't know Miguel yetbut he was our honor he was supersurprised that I was playing this geekysong like say of a videogame in a goWatch at: 10:40 / 11:00tournament it was in a room a little bitcheaper he was like oh so cool yeah sowe met and we talked about games and werealized we had similar interest and amuch much much later one decided to tomake a video game company no yes but heWatch at: 11:00 / 11:20started to maybe you you can tell no alittle bit no no tell yourself hestarted making it projecting Cadiz witha couple of friends and in that point IWatch at: 11:20 / 11:40I was not yet in the video gamedevelopment industry I was just workingas a programmer but I was doing musicfor video games for other people forfree in that moment so just because itwas fun and I needed some music so IWatch at: 11:40 / 12:00asked him to if he wanted that I thatthey do some music for him and then hestarted to have needs of some programmerso I had do you need something little II was not expecting like two in aWatch at: 12:00 / 12:20company let's say or anything like thatyes maybe he needed some little bit ofhelp but I think he man misunderstood orsomething he said to me like a hugeemail explaining all the things that Iwas supposed to do from that point on Isaid okay maybe it's fun awesome so soWatch at: 12:20 / 12:40that's how you got into game developmentthen correct yesso how did you get into game developmentwant a little bit please so like we sortWatch at: 12:40 / 13:00of heard like how how Dan got into gamedevelopment there he just sort of likestumbled into it more or less correctyes I'm wondering what was it that likeled to you getting into game developmentWatch at: 13:00 / 13:20JJ uh well since the first time I I sawa video game when I was a child in inthe eighties I I thought that I wantedto make them I didn't tell them IstartedWatch at: 13:20 / 13:40thirty years after but better late thanneverthumbs up that's the story of my lifebetter late tonight so what sort ofskills has game development required youto to put to use and how did you end upWatch at: 13:40 / 14:00developing those skills for me mostlydrawing and animating pixel art villainand a bit of everythingsometimes I do a little programmingeverything and I learned to to draw toWatch at: 14:00 / 14:20drop piece lot a long long time ago withwith a program called the looks paintdoes the explain - from the 80s also butWatch at: 14:20 / 14:40I just touch a little elite a little andand then forgetting Allah are all aboutthis and lately we with Mugen you knowMugen I'm learning game thing yeah yeahI think well with that with that IWatch at: 14:40 / 15:00country continued we put the pixel artand some years after that was when whenWatch at: 15:00 / 15:20I I decided to to to try and make aagain company yeah for me it's I'm doinga programming and also music and soundso I studied in a conservatory of musicWatch at: 15:20 / 15:40in Cali long time ago I actually studiedthe clarinet and this knowledge that areacquired thereuse for composing and stuff it's notlike I'm super good but I just try to domy best with a little knowledge I haveWatch at: 15:40 / 16:00it's not the same to learn how tocompose and to learn how to play and andprogramming Ireland in the universitylet's say and then I was working as aprogrammerbut also something you maybe don'tlisten is that there are all the skillsWatch at: 16:00 / 16:19that you that you need as a gamedeveloper as a indie game developer youyou need to be able to talk with peoplein events you need to be able to talkwith publishers you need to be able totalk with possible players you need toWatch at: 16:19 / 16:40do taxes taxes also very important skillnot directly but is preparing them fromthe attacks tax advisor it's a lot ofwork and yeah sometimes yes for examplelike to beat your game to a publish asomething super important that notWatch at: 16:40 / 17:00everybody know certificate fair sooverall what's it been like to work aspart of a team for game development asit were I think it's great it's greatWatch at: 17:00 / 17:20I'm very happy to have found me did thething we've got now it's a fastcomplement the rest Miguel makes gamedesign level design peer daniel musicWatch at: 17:20 / 17:40programming also also period on morethingsKuang chart design pixel art and myselfpiece rely on someone or other thingsand best of all of all is that we wecommunicate very very well with betweenWatch at: 17:40 / 18:00us we we have aMalhar likes in this yesjust just to commend one thing also theconcept that guy who lives in Argentinahe's also caught one we have to funds toWatch at: 18:00 / 18:20that I was like what one of you at leastthough has like the alliterative name sowe can say JJ yes that was my mentalshortcut first say what's the origin ofyour Studios name like mad Gear gamesWatch at: 18:20 / 18:40how do you ever play in a fightbriefly it is an old beaten am a gamefrom the front from the end of theeighties and you you play there as KobeWatch at: 18:40 / 19:00a guy or hire a guy a guy what werehackers the mayor yes how does the mayorthen you do play against against McGee RWatch at: 19:00 / 19:20the organization of the bad guys iscalledNetgear oh so we took the name and wetalked of it of it as as lie we we haveWatch at: 19:20 / 19:40rehabilitated the organization into agame studio doctor about that drinkthanks that's pretty great so I meanWatch at: 19:40 / 20:00most jobs can be stressful but gamedevelopment can be a pretty darnstressful hobby so well hobby / careerso do you folks have any tips orpractices you do to help manage thatstressWatch at: 20:00 / 20:20stop when you need to stay scans reallyseriously damage your health no not onlyphysically but also psychologypsychology I can't announce itpsychologically so remember to enjoywhat you do have enough rest in time andWatch at: 20:20 / 20:40I'll reserve some time for your familyof friends yeah that's my thing I wouldalso say that it's important to duel Ihave a it sounds like a cliche okay butto have like a balanced life intend toalso do some sport it try to eat healthyI also do like meditation and one makesWatch at: 20:40 / 21:00like Tai Chi stuff also like to havesome pass a time though so a healthyactive life yeah also play videogames[Laughter]Watch at: 21:00 / 21:20don't just make video games play them sowe already sort of touched on a wholenew world a little bit but I figured I'dask you folks to sort of describe howWatch at: 21:20 / 21:40you view the game like what's you howwould you describe a whole new world tosomeone who hadn't heard of it or playedit I think of either as I I think it'sthe legitimate child of Mega Man castWatch at: 21:40 / 22:00arenaAlma Camus Dussehra something like amixie between them it was that thirdgame you mentioned Makai muda I go sangghostoh yes yeah yeah I think it plays aWatch at: 22:00 / 22:20little bit like like Mega Man but in theambient ation and how how aesthetics andthis stuff it's it's more based onCastlevania and constant goesyeah and if someone doesn't know aboutthe whole new world you would it's aWatch at: 22:20 / 22:40retro game based on games in the 80sthat emulates the graphics and sound ofthe NES and also the difficulty but itit adapts some things out of date to tothe new time so that you if you die youWatch at: 22:40 / 23:00don't start from the beginning of thelevel but a lot of checkpoints and thenthat it's helping you that is still verydifficult III when I noticed like theferry was basically a Megaman chart shotI was like and the ground slide despiteWatch at: 23:00 / 23:20coming late I was like oh I haven't hardshot in the ground slide oh yeah butyeah so you've already sort of touchedon this but so how exactly did a wholeWatch at: 23:20 / 23:40new world come to be Daniel so at thebeginning of Mattia we were developinganother gamethe name was ninja trials and one day wedecided to participate in Luton TerryWatch at: 23:40 / 24:00and actually that was the point whereMiguel joined on 20 tow the concept thatthis guy from Argentina he came late soMiguel was in that time living in Japanbut only temporary now he's living thereWatch at: 24:00 / 24:20forever let's say we were in this ninjatrials game but there was a loot Andheriand one wanted to try and participateand we were all working like from ourplaces far apart but connected onlinevisit me yeah do you wanna participateWatch at: 24:20 / 24:40with us yeah sure and in this this roadAndheri was the theme wasconnected world so all together we cameto this idea of the two two worlds oneis up and one is down and then if youfall through the hole then you are in aWatch at: 24:40 / 25:00new world the named I think the namecame out also pretty fast no because itwas like logical to us even if it's alittle bit too easy pun with a song fromgallery this brought us problems laterbuddy yeah I know because I try to likeWatch at: 25:00 / 25:20search for gameplay for you on YouTubeand I just cover that song all the timeI'm like damn it I appreciate the punthough I'm just like it makes your gamevery hard to find on YouTube somethingWatch at: 25:20 / 25:40we would never do a game but somethingwill end yeah of course beyond adiversion you can still play it's a it'slike a super small version of what wehave now and I'm not foolish and littleWatch at: 25:40 / 26:00bit some backs and stuff but the ideawas already there with the holes theimpose was already there the maincharacter was already there and then wereally signed some stuff after doing thelewodan diary we saw it was fun so weWatch at: 26:00 / 26:20said maybe we should continue and therewas another event that was a make gamein one month and just sell one copy ofit like make one if you make one euroyou already win and everybody can win itwas not under competition thing but itwas just so that people they end upWatch at: 26:20 / 26:40putting a game out there is not as easyas you would think and we developed alittle bit more of the game and we didthis we we released in each version thatwas like two stitches low superelevationI think this is not all not availableanymore and it was also a lot of fun soWatch at: 26:40 / 27:00we decided to contentyou make the whole game after that acouple of months later we did aKickstarter successfully and we we withit in the game like it is now if yourealize in the game that are strangepeople around a strange NPCs that helpyou or do stuff like this is an awesomeWatch at: 27:00 / 27:20wise in the first stage and none of therest of them so these these guys arethese guys are kick-started by backersthat puts a little bit more money to bein the game I just remember the guys inWatch at: 27:20 / 27:40the dungeon in the first level who werelike playing the board game playing yeahyeah I just I saw that moment I was justlike this is so silly and that Icouldn't find any others and I was justWatch at: 27:40 / 28:00sort of sad so it's like I want to findwhere in PCs but I can't weepsyeah this is more like if you want tocollect all of them I tried exploringalthough I think like the I'll get toWatch at: 28:00 / 28:20the if are some of them only able to befound in new game+ actually new gameplans I think there are none of them ohokayso it's actually stuff I would have hadto do it okay I remember I think it wasthe ice level where I decided I'm notdoing it because those clouds keptWatch at: 28:20 / 28:40trying to kill me and I was like norunning uhbut what exactly led to the decision forusing holes normally recognizable andlike retro gaming as instant death asentrances until the reverse worldbecause that was sort of a veryWatch at: 28:40 / 29:00interesting decision design-wise no notyou you you'reyeah Dan's answered a lot of questionsJJ I think it's your turn well we withWatch at: 29:00 / 29:20we something it was a nice gameplaytwist we thought it'd do it during thelagoon Derek so all of us agreed OhWatch at: 29:20 / 29:40about that and that's itfair enough yeah I like I noticed prettyearly on there's a segment where itessentially forces you to jump and fallinto a pit because the pit isn't able tobe jumped across like you will guaranteeWatch at: 29:40 / 30:00you to fall into the pit into the firststage which will introduce you to theother world because I read like you knowthe steam page and everything I justwalked straight into the first pit I sawbut like if you gifted someone the gameblind I imagine they'd try and jump overthe pits at first which is just it'sWatch at: 30:00 / 30:20interesting me because for people whohave spent like their childhood learningpits are bad avoid pits it's sort ofcounterintuitive in a way yes they theyusually are very surprised when theyfall in there in the holes and and theyWatch at: 30:20 / 30:40see then they don't die that's I thinkwe we wanted a lot of time when we weretesting the game we would present a gamein like this manga convention event andpeople would know nothing about the gameWatch at: 30:40 / 31:00night they would see it and say heywhat's this it's okay we wanna tell yasure how is it playing what do I have todo yesterdaynormally you say yesterday game it'svery easy to control and then they areplaying and the when they fall in the inthe hole they are like oh I diedwhat isWatch at: 31:00 / 31:20it's a lot of fun to see the reactionsof the people it's always different andalways surprised I mean that that'sactually super fair because yeah it doesplay with that expectation it's justlike I wonder what it's like yeah justenjoy pulling on the collective legs ofall the players everywhere you'veWatch at: 31:20 / 31:40already mentioned like some of theaesthetic for the game was based aroundyou said ghosts and sort of theaesthetic and design was like ghosts andgoblins and Castlevania correctyeah was there anything else thatinfluenced their artistic style you usedWatch at: 31:40 / 32:00for the game mostly Aiden NES games yeshmalso with inspiration from some snezEssenyes games like democracy but mostlyWatch at: 32:00 / 32:20akley things yes I'm actually superhappy that you reference demon crestbecause I love that gameI love that one - yes it's whoa it wasamazing amazing yeah yeah being the redWatch at: 32:20 / 32:39erimar is good stuff so what was thehardest challenge with making a wholenew worldI think splitting the world about thegame no no Daniel yeah so I think we hadWatch at: 32:39 / 33:00a lot of fun during the development ofthe game and everything went quite goodeven the Kickstarter where we were newlike are we going to manage to get themoney even we didn't ask for much moneybut at the end we did we finally decidedWatch at: 33:00 / 33:20to self-publish and I think it was not abest idea if we would do it again weprobably would try to in a publisherfest yeah it's very difficult withso little how we are and at thebeginning to to reach in half people soWatch at: 33:20 / 33:39that it's what we earn a little bit ofmoney with it so it's for anything thatdidn't making it of the game that youguys really wanted whether it be areaspotential enemies or abilities perhapsone of our members or community actswill toss in particular water know ifthere are any potions that didn't seeWatch at: 33:39 / 34:00the light of day there are a lot ofthings done that didn't make it into thegame we we plant a sacred level with theenemies and boss on 16th beat modeWatch at: 34:00 / 34:20two-player mode and he'll characterpotion misters new attacks and much moreone one of the potions the potion oflife and also Fae originally was goingto have different attacks depending onWatch at: 34:20 / 34:40the select potion um most of everythingmuch more sort of things one of the oneof the things we struggled against wasfinishing the game we don't we withoutincluding all of this but we have to ifWatch at: 34:40 / 35:00if we continue developing we we havewith with we never have finished yeah itcomes a point where you have to justfinish the game and released otherwiseit's never gonna finish fair enoughWatch at: 35:00 / 35:20which on the subject of potions bothaxle tossed myself note that the potionmasters mobility is somewhat limited inkeeping with like the simple controlsuntil late in the game when he receivesthe blood potion which you know givesyou the ability to double jump and toWatch at: 35:20 / 35:40slide and thus to try new roads toexplore the various stageswas this always intended as a means ofsort of nudging people our dive into newgame+ to further explore the world orwas the player intended to be able tobacktrack once upon a time a certainWatch at: 35:40 / 36:00point we thought they were letting theplayer backtrack using the map but ororiginally the idea was using it for newgame+ yeah also we wanted to to makereally like the first stage to be likeanybody could could with the first stageWatch at: 36:00 / 36:20and then really increase difficulty toreach like NES game difficulty andhaving this also allowed us to ask morefrom the players at the end maybe wewould do it again we would make itdifferentlythat's why camera heroes is differentokay Mario's you have slide them doubleWatch at: 36:20 / 36:40down from the beginning which we'regonna touch on Komodo heroes in a bitbut you've already mentioned this Ithink a little bit but do you have aspecific favorite memory of watchingsomeone play your game in this case awhole new world yes there was a momentWatch at: 36:40 / 37:00when we released again there were somepeople in twitch playing the game and wehad the opportunity to see life again Ithink it was from playing against thelast post and it was so good for me as aWatch at: 37:00 / 37:20developer well I was enjoying it so muchnot that she would die all the timeshe spent five hours so five really fivehours fighting again the final boss andshe managed she did at the end see shedidn't want to stop it was so amazingWatch at: 37:20 / 37:40that she really wanted to beat that guyand she was feeling so good afterbeating it and she was so happy we wereactually trying to help her through thecomments that we were developing yeahIII can I know that feelingcuz that boss killed theWatch at: 37:40 / 38:00first got there specifically becauselike he has a goddamn instant kill andso you know do like so much the fightperfectly and then he just pounced ontop of me and kill me and I'm like goddamn it okay I tell him fun about thisWatch at: 38:00 / 38:20yeah you got you can yeah it's actuallya way we didn't want to do it so evidentso I don't feel so bad but there's a wayyou can avoid that he instant kill youif you just push all the buttons whenhe's holding you you can actually escapethere he's not dammit wait does thatWatch at: 38:20 / 38:40work in the first fight tooyes yes yes so I don't know if I shouldsay much more did you play and I don'tknow one no no there are careful thereWatch at: 38:40 / 39:00are some things you can do about thefirst battle but okay you can ask me ofthe record lady view I did choose him byshooting him with like the blood shotsfrom across yeah yeah which causes it toWatch at: 39:00 / 39:20start I just do not function well in thethe screen flip mode like it actuallymakes me a little motion sick mm-hmm soI couldn't clear it that well I got theactual proper and last fight started andWatch at: 39:20 / 39:40then I was like oh oh and now I die cuzand actually this is a legitimatequestion I was curious about so when yougo into like the reverse world your upand down arrows don't flip and I wasWatch at: 39:40 / 40:00wondering what led to that decisionbecause it does make things like usingthe the slide and the stomp a littletrickierbecause did you play the steam versionyes yeah there is actually an option toWatch at: 40:00 / 40:20invert this dammit I didn't find itcries yeah that was like I think mybiggest grave was just like ah thecontrol there I just ah would be good toflip that be honest um some peopleWatch at: 40:20 / 40:40naturally prefer the way we have it nowand some other people prefer the otherway and it's really very very dependingon the person so we had to take adecision and put the other one in theoptions and we are aware that noteverybody is going to find it I the wayWatch at: 40:40 / 41:00I I think it's because I've played abunch of games that would you know flipyour control so you got like flippedupside down so it sort of became likemuscle memory at that point so I'mfighting against which so many othergames have taught me I'm sticking on theceiling my up-and-down is reversed goodWatch at: 41:00 / 41:20stuffweeps so at this juncture is thereanything else planned for a whole newworld such as more content or is yourfocus going to be more on kimono heroesWatch at: 41:20 / 41:40the game we've been alluding to on andoff mmmwe may make some little updates like newlengths with his support mostlybut we are now focused on on kimonoheroes yeah okay we released a game inin the Japanese market for the switchingWatch at: 41:40 / 42:001st of November so I mean very fair yeahso essentially on the subject of kimonoheroes would you care to tell us a bitmore about the game since it's currentlyin developmentyeah kimono heroes is like 4 playerWatch at: 42:00 / 42:20co-op game which combines elements ofranking games also like Megaman and codebut also with dashes and slashes so youhave a SWAT and you have Kunis to attackshort distance and long distance and thecharacters are all like cute animalsWatch at: 42:20 / 42:40like in games like in Sonic or freedomplanet or something like this andcooperation and fighting together andhelping each other is like veryimportant but there is also totallypossible to play one playing a game andenjoy the experience to the maximum soWatch at: 42:40 / 43:00how is the co-op going to work is itgoing to be lobbies by invitation localall of the above or some of them wewould like to do all of them oh but it'sstill early to really know and just as aside point for the coop is it going tobe like a life system or like sharedWatch at: 43:00 / 43:20lives or our players going to be able torevive each other since that sort ofthing its Dell rather differently in anumber of brawlers and running you knowwhat I mean each one each of each playerwill will have a his his or her ownWatch at: 43:20 / 43:40lives will be able to revive others thensharing sharing their lives so sorry ifsome that if somebody's dead you canWatch at: 43:40 / 44:00give a give him give him or her one ofyour livesalso if if they are totally dead you canhelp him or her recover yeah let's sayWatch at: 44:00 / 44:20if one person loses all the energy ofthe actual life it will in the floor andit will have a counter on top of it soyou can use this this little counter totry and recover him like first date orsomething active I'm sure you have seenleasing another game yeah like ScottWatch at: 44:20 / 44:40Walkerexactly like that yeah we all like alsoScott Pilgrim music yeahso there's four different characterswhich all apparently will playdifferently can you give examples huhWatch at: 44:40 / 45:00yep each of them have special abilitiesthe folks can can these guys like theenemies and the cat can climb the wallsWatch at: 45:00 / 45:20and the squirrel can can fly and themonkey can use a Liana's to to to raiseyeah so they sort of have cub combatapplications but they're more actuallyWatch at: 45:20 / 45:40going to let you sort of explore more ofthe world and discover more of itssecret yeah okay so will the players beable to play as duplicates or will theypossibly have to compete to play astheir favorite characters we arethinking about this now we are not sureWatch at: 45:40 / 46:00let's see we we somehow like this atleast the first this first playthroughthat every person has a differentcharacter maybe you can unlock that youcan't really take the same characterWatch at: 46:00 / 46:20twice nice little hidden collectablesomewhere nice sorry a nice little Asiancollectible somewhere just the abilityto play as duplicates of the samecharacter that's been a thing I've seendone in a couple games yeah yeah so itwould be like it has a polenta colorWatch at: 46:20 / 46:40changed and then you can use the twotimes a fox well so one of the game'sfeatures and this was one that caught myeye states that it's different everysingle day of the year would you care toclarify thatand is it specifically tied to thedifferent days of the year yeah exactlyWatch at: 46:40 / 47:00this is the ax-cut other games just makethe every every day of every day youhave a challenge we wanted to do thelike something like the weather changesduring the year so if you play first ofJanuary the game is gonna feel no wayWatch at: 47:00 / 47:20any of you plays savings of July thegame is gonna play in some other waywhat is going to change is the weatherof the levels but this weather itchanges the how you how the game feelsome place so my question here is is theWatch at: 47:20 / 47:40like how many different types of weatheris it going to be and is it going to betied to generally the seasons or isthere also going to be like a winter butalso snowing or summer and also rainingyeah they will probably have these someWatch at: 47:40 / 48:00about also raining things like this soif you play today maybe it doesn't dreamabout tomorrow it rains I mean we didn'tdecide how many different weathers aregoing to be but every single day isgoing to feel a little bit different andWatch at: 48:00 / 48:20is it going to be emotionally like asort of aesthetic thing or how do youplan on having these sort of influencethe gameplay if you don't mind sharingyeah so for example if there is if thereis no then maybe some little snow ballswill create on the floor and then youWatch at: 48:20 / 48:40are going to be slower working there ifthere is wind and and rain that you aregoing to be carried by the wind and youhave to be careful when you jump andthings like this if there is a like astorm then everything is gonna be likeblack and then when a lightning comesand you you will see and you can advanceWatch at: 48:40 / 49:00huh the the thing is this would affectall the other game the whole game somaybesometimes the game is gonna be moredifficult on sometimes it's gonna beeasierare there any of the boss encountersthat are going to be wait I mean okayI'm getting ahead of myselfWatch at: 49:00 / 49:20first off how large will each of theworlds be and how many bosses are theregoing to be Daniel you know what rightnow we have like I think five bossesWatch at: 49:20 / 49:40five post-fight and we have like teamDevils but we still want to do we havethe main story and we want to do it muchlonger we want to do at least like fivehours so there's gonna be lots moreWatch at: 49:40 / 50:00stages it's just they are not done so Icannot tell you much about them yet howmany bosses are planned you said there'sfive currently correct we plan to havenine but I'm not sure we can keep withthis life I'm sure because we haveWatch at: 50:00 / 50:20already five I suppose the other thingis are any of the weather conditionsgoing to influence how the bosses fightnot perfectly defined okay I figured I'dWatch at: 50:20 / 50:40asks when you're like storm I'm justthinking like if there's gonna be like astorm boss and it's just going to be apain in the butt to fight during a stormI'm probably going to do this to myselfbut yes let's see about this is stillsome some stuff to be decided so a wholeWatch at: 50:40 / 51:00new world was a fairly story lightexperience is that something that willcarry on into kimono heroes or willthere be more lore and story for thoseseeking it out also will there also bedifferent endings and kimono heroes ayou know what I mean honey war weWatch at: 51:00 / 51:20you can unlock three three differentendings yep I live that there's three Ionly found the one we we have a pair ofendings planned but we are still workingWatch at: 51:20 / 51:40on them and Daniel let me a story yesthe story we we have the world hasreally much more story and much morethings going on but all of them wereWatch at: 51:40 / 52:00most of the guy in the background so ifyou mm I don't know we we want to tellit's gonna be really story light like ina whole new world but there is thingsthat I in the Lord that influence howhow the world is perceived and there areWatch at: 52:00 / 52:20let's say in the background you can seesome depictions of fights of the pastand things like this and and and thisway we have really prepared like therewas there is a background story going onbut I don't know how much of this storyis gonna be retold in game and how muchit's gonna be told through or theirWatch at: 52:20 / 52:40methods first off like by other methodsdo you have other things planned for awhole new earth sorry Jeff other thingsplaying for Komodo Heroes like shortstories comics merch or what have youyeah maybe we do like income on ourheels and we do something like a comicWatch at: 52:40 / 53:00or could be something like this butstill this it's not decidedso what platforms is kimono herocurrently slated to be like what are theplatforms are aiming to release on busyyou know Windows Windows Mac also suiteWatch at: 53:00 / 53:20ps4 on an expose and is there a releasedate you folks are aiming foryeah in the end of 2019 okay and so onceWatch at: 53:20 / 53:40the main release is finisheddo you have additional content that youguys would like to sit down and once youhave something for people to settle downon or will you be moving on to otherprojects I think it's it's really tooWatch at: 53:40 / 54:00early to know it depends on how well thegame means is taken by the audience ifreally the people like it a lot themmaybe we we have we have things we wecould do it so we had things plannedthat we could add in case we want toWatch at: 54:00 / 54:20expand it a little bit more but itreally depends otherwise we would moveto the next play which on that note isthere anything else you're working on orplanning beyond comodo heroes yeah inMattia games we are doing this as maybeWatch at: 54:20 / 54:40you know we we all work in otherprojects for example I I work in involvetanks then Hani's JJ is working in otherindie projects Miguel is working as alocalization lead in Japan and when itWatch at: 54:40 / 55:00was also working some but Matty againstright now or lucuma okay so the retroaesthetic is fairly noticeable in both awhole new world and kimono heroes isthat something you intend to continuerefining and using in future mad Geargame titles or is there other specificWatch at: 55:00 / 55:20game styles or artistic styles you aimto pay homage to or make your take onfor future titles my favorite games areusual pixel art games so I I'd like toWatch at: 55:20 / 55:40continue making pixel art games ifpossible but also maybewe could we could do another kind ofgames Tami oh yeah we were thinking inthe future maybe to try also with notWatch at: 55:40 / 56:00pixel art stuff but I don't think wewould go 3d we like to be stuffif if we may Treaty probably would below poly pretty kind of an n64 orWatch at: 56:00 / 56:20something like that there so windingthis specific interview down first off Ijust want to know if you guys hadanything else you wanted to share withthe audience at this juncture what weWatch at: 56:20 / 56:40have to say and thank you for makingthis interview - it was interesting -yeah we are looking forward to reducingkimono Helios and seeing what otherpeople think and we are happy that youWatch at: 56:40 / 57:00enjoy how you enjoy a whole new alsomaybe some people don't know you canmultiply a whole new world in switch inPlayStation 4 and I'm sorry for mybroken English I thank you very much forhaving us hereWatch at: 57:00 / 57:20it was a pleasure to have you bothattend and I'm grateful you took me upon the invitation to go and be a part ofthis interview I suppose other than thatthe only thing I could think to ask isis there any indie projects that you twohave had your eye on that you foundinteresting you'd want to share theaudience I have a pair of indie projectsWatch at: 57:20 / 57:40yes a catana zero is one of them a ideaoh yeahWatch at: 57:40 / 58:00the the wicking lady no yeah yeah yeahthat one yeah and another one called azebra shadoit's a an Indian India game with a NES aWatch at: 58:00 / 58:20static I have a couple of projects thatI backed and kick-started I'm curiousabout one of them is a blood-stained Iplayed I played a the crews of the Moonversion the NES version I think it'sWatch at: 58:20 / 58:40super good and I'm looking forward tosee what the full fetch version wouldwould be I'm not super fond of the 3dart style it reminds me a little bit ofwhat happened with mighty number 9 andthis is always like not super good yeahWatch at: 58:40 / 59:00you know I really like Mega Man games amighty number 9 was not what I wasexpectingso I hope this one this Blitzstein isWatch at: 59:00 / 59:20yes so I'm already very happy and thenthere's another game from from Spanishcompany called blasphemousmaybe you've heard of it yeah yes I havea backpack I think and we we had thechance to play in one of theconference's in Spain very early versionWatch at: 59:20 / 59:40and it even if it was very early versionit feels so good and it's so amazingthat I'm I'm really excited about thatback in the day for the like the earlyearly alpha for the Kickstarter'sactually works the game in a reallyfunny way managed to fling myselfWatch at: 59:40 / 01:00:00through the ground and then like it didfund weird things I never managed toreplicate that one but that how long wasthat a bunch of other stuff started thisrunning gag that I break every singlegame I get my hands on there is anotherWatch at: 01:00:00 / 01:00:20one which is called fleeing song ofcrimson it's a yes I've also beenfollowing that yeah yeah I've heard theychange it they changed a lot of stuffnow so but I mean the pixel art isamazing the the part that looks a lot ofWatch at: 01:00:20 / 01:00:40flying it looks so satisfying yeahexactlyreally how he hits day I'm watching agif right now and while I talk and he'slike so satisfying to see how he hits Istill need to play Kasim but yeah thisWatch at: 01:00:40 / 01:01:00III was very looking forward to it butthen I saw the reviews in steam and Iwas a little bit disappointed I I wantto try anyways as well and there wasalso this other one it's calledthe one that look like Shadow of theColossus ah hey eunbi this can beat thiscampus yeah it is not like shadows ofWatch at: 01:01:00 / 01:01:20Colossus for the most but there is anarea that gives you a sort of shadows ofthe Colossus vibe and there is a bossthat you can climb up it but like thegrappling hook thing that was going tobe used for like the more shadows theColossus moments isn't in there and theWatch at: 01:01:20 / 01:01:40ability to climb on top of this one bossand like kill it by just smacking thissword stabbed in its head is no longerthere but you can climb up a giant stonestatue that looks like the knight fromshadows the Colossus still then have asword fight with a with a lady up whilestanding on its arm which is prettyWatch at: 01:01:40 / 01:02:00awesome yeah I guess it it's not whatwhat I expected in the beginning withthe with the Ellie gifts and stuff butyeah maybe I get to try it soon it's ifyou're a fan of Metroidvania Zin Soulslikes it's a fairly solid one there areWatch at: 01:02:00 / 01:02:20there's aspects to itcan be a bit like it's it's challengeruns are unforgiving but if you enjoydifficulty there's a lot there to be hadI enjoy hard things so I was like heckWatch at: 01:02:20 / 01:02:40yeah yeah I also like how things itdepends I I for example things Celestiait's a very good game but I didn't enjoythe difficulty there I'm not a fan ofsuper meat boy stuff I don't know why itWatch at: 01:02:40 / 01:03:00just doesn't appeal to me as much as ohnot like I finished half the b-sides andI think that was about that and then Isaw the sea side and was like no giftsof that and just know what I got done inWatch at: 01:03:00 / 01:03:20the b-sides but like if I'm allowed tocomment one more it I'm playing rightnow because I also backed a Kickstarteris called moonlighter oh yeah that themerchant one yeah exactlyI think they the in the beginning I wasWatch at: 01:03:20 / 01:03:40having a lot of fun and now it stopped alittle bit the pace of the game but Istill think it's very good it's a Ididn't expect a selling stuff to be somuch fun actuallyit's I get to be a match and that isvery weird am I gonna have fun settingWatch at: 01:03:40 / 01:04:00stuff but yeah you have III thought ofresset here if you've ever heard of thatlike when I heard moonlighter it made methink of rest here which there aremerchants and you get to price catchpeople and it's greatI I think I don't know I would take thisWatch at: 01:04:00 / 01:04:19one was it yeah but yeah overall tothose fine folks in the audience I'dlike to send it a big thank you forsticking by for the entire to theinterview if you've made it this far youcan buy or wish list a whole new worldon Steam for news you can go and checkout mad Gear games on TwitterWatch at: 01:04:19 / 01:04:40they do have a spiffy website that youcan check out with links to all of theabove in the description and is thereanywhere else you'd care to send peoplejust thank you very much for listeninguntil now and see you in our next gameyeah figures willing to go in my chatterwith me when kimono Heroes comes out I'dWatch at: 01:04:40 / 01:05:00be totally down for picking your brainyeah anyways overall Chao until the nexttime folks if you enjoyed this videofeel free to leave a comment in well thecomment section or if I guess you didn'tenjoy it and had any sort ofconstructive criticism otherwise ifWatch at: 01:05:00 / 01:05:19you'd like to see more of the interviewsreviews or other indie odds and endsthat end up on the YouTube channel feelfree to hit that subscribe button andthe bell to get an alert when we nextrelease something see you next timefolksWatch at: 01:05:19 / 01:05:40[Music]Watch at: 01:05:40 / 01:06:00you

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