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Watch at: 00:00 / 00:00:20[Music]hello everyone and welcome to thisweek's live chat with the Tudor TravelGuide or video if you're catching upWatch at: 00:20 / 00:40with us after the event so today it'sall about how to read a Tudor house nowfor those of you who are unfamiliar withhow to do so I hope that this is goingto make any visit that you make to anyWatch at: 00:40 / 01:00major Tudor property in the future muchmuch more interesting and satisfying soI'm gonna be talking about that in amoment but first of all for those of youwho don't know me my name of course isSarah and I'm the founder of the TudorTravel Guide your visitors companion toWatch at: 01:00 / 01:20the aristocratic houses manners andcastles of the sixteenth century nowwhile we wait for a few people to catchup and join us I can see that there arealready a few people online I will justsay hello to you all and encourage youif you can hear me and see me - give meWatch at: 01:20 / 01:40a thumbs up as usual and to drop acomment in the comment box but to thethe comment box below the live chat thatwould be really helpful I'm a little bitnervous this week because I was playingwith the technology and I scheduled thisWatch at: 01:40 / 02:00chat twice and I'm a bit scared thatpeople may be trying to find the otherchat so I'm just hoping that the rightchat has turned up and I can see atleast some of you are finding your wayhere and so it's a big hello to a coupleof old friends that's Cindy hi CindyWatch at: 02:00 / 02:20happy Saturday to you and hello againKatherine it's lovely to see you here sohow is it for everybody in your neck ofthe woods it's all a bit strange herewe're hardin lockdown were half out of lockdownpeople seem to be applying rules in allsorts of different ways so I know someWatch at: 02:20 / 02:40parts of the world it's locked down whatlocked down and other people are stillvery much in the fray so wherever youare in the world I hope that you'redoing finegood okay so right so today as I sayit's all going to be about how to read aTudor house though if you have anyWatch at: 02:40 / 03:00questions as we go alongof course as ever feel free to post themand what I'm going to do is I'll try andpick up on some of those questionstowards the end of the chat now I willsay that I am NOT an architecturalhistorian if you know anything of you mystory you'll know that I'm a very veryWatch at: 03:00 / 03:20passionate enthusiastic student of Tudorhistory and Tudor places in particularand having written two books about toturn occasions both the in the footstepsbooks and many many many more blogssince I've learned quite a lot aboutTudor houses and how to make the most ofWatch at: 03:20 / 03:40visiting them now before I startedwriting and before I came to the TudorTravel Guide I of course visited manymany beautiful historic houses over manyyears and I had a lovely lovely timebut it was only when I really got intoWatch at: 03:40 / 04:00reading and researching about you toplaces that I began to unlock theirsecrets and as I did so I found a wholenew level of pleasure and satisfactionin visiting them because what I foundout was is that well I mean I guess itmakes sense now looking back but IWatch at: 04:00 / 04:20didn't realize it at the time was ofcourse there were certain fashions ofthe day and the wealthy those who havemoney and status wanted to build theirproperties in the most fashionable wayproper possible and so there was atemplate to how these houses theseWatch at: 04:20 / 04:40aristocratic houses were built and whatI found out was was once she began tounderstandout template if you are visitingthe property you could walk from room toroom and have a much more a much deepersense of of what room you were lookingat how it would have been used by theWatch at: 04:40 / 05:00people who live there and in the reallyhistoric places also I could startputting events in places so for exampleWindsor Castle is a is just a classicexample of where today of course almostWatch at: 05:00 / 05:20every vestige of the Tudor Castle isgone in terms of the interiors it's beenripped out by the Georgians and theVictorians but in fact when you knowwhat you're looking for you realize thatthe current Garter throne room atWindsor Castle was once Henry theeighth's presents chamber and of courseWatch at: 05:20 / 05:40in Henry the eighth's presence chamberat Windsor amberlynn was made Marquessof Pembroke in September15:32 so suddenly I found myselfstanding in this room and I'd never beenknew before what had gone on there soit's really worthwhile just diggingbeneath the surface a bit and learning aWatch at: 05:40 / 06:00little bit more about the template ofhow these houses were laid out so Idon't know how far we're gonna get todayI'm gonna start at the beginning as ifwe were entering the house and I'm goingto take us through some of the keyfeatures and again these are featuresthat as I have learnt to understand themWatch at: 06:00 / 06:20and some of you may know a little bitmore about different things and you'remost welcome to comment about that as wego and we'll keep walking and we'll seehow far we get we're gonna run for about20 minutes or so and if we only getpartway through then what I might do iscome back and do a part two so I'm justgonna say a quick hello to cindy helloWatch at: 06:20 / 06:40Cindy and to Natalie who's joining usfrom Florida thank you very much it'swonderful to have you here people aregradually joining okay so let's thinkabout so we're talking about now aboutaristocratic houses and of course themore arrestsWatch at: 06:40 / 07:00critique the house the more wealthy theowner the larger the house and thegreater the number of chambers thetemplate that I'm about to describe toyou or often also apply to smaller manorhouses although they might not have hadsuch grand rooms or quite as many roomsand I'll try to point that outWatch at: 07:00 / 07:20as we go along so most Tudor houseswould have had a gatehouse so you wouldarrive a through a gatehouse often andagain we're going to be focusing on themost aristocratic houses here and youjust had to think scale it down for someof the smaller houses the largest housesWatch at: 07:20 / 07:40often had an outer courtyard and theouter courtyard and base think basecourt at Hampton Court Palace often hadranges of lodgings for guests and forcourtiers and they also contains some ofthe service offices you know the officesWatch at: 07:40 / 08:00that kept the palace running nowobviously other palaces such as EltonPalace had a similar outer courtyardthat has now completely goneyou will see many many if you start todo any kind of digging you will see manyof the larger houses having this outerWatch at: 08:00 / 08:20or base court before heading through asecond gatehouse very often into aninner courtyard now um so these werecalled double courtyard manor houses soif you ever hear that term used a doublecourtyard manor house that's what you'reWatch at: 08:20 / 08:40dealing with an outer courtyard withguest lodgings and service offices andthen an inner courtyard where you wouldhave had the private chambers of theLord and Lady king and queennow sometimes dividing the outercourtyard from the inner courtyard wouldWatch at: 08:40 / 09:00have been what we call a cross rangenow that cross range and sometimes forexample contained the Great Hall and infact rather than going through a gatewayinto an inner courtyardyou might go into the Great Hall andthat would have been your point of entryinto the more private distant part ofWatch at: 09:00 / 09:20the lodgings now it's true to say thatwhether the Great Hall was in that crossrange or whether it was part of theinner courtyard you wouldn't normallyaccess these large properties throughWatch at: 09:20 / 09:40the Great Hall so very often there wouldbe a porch that would lead into theGreat Hall now great halls tended todisappear a little bit later on inHenry's range as the the great publicchambers of the courtyards began toWatch at: 09:40 / 10:00become less fashionable and the king andthe Queen retreated ever more intoprivate chambers and I think I'm rightin saying for example the oaklands whichwas a later Palace built by Henry theeighth didn't have a Great Hall butcertainly most of the early 16th centuryearlier 16th century houses did and soWatch at: 10:00 / 10:20what you would walk through into theGreat Hall at what was called its lowend so if you ever hear the terms thelow end and the high end the low end wasthe low status area the low end of thehall the low status end of the hall andWatch at: 10:20 / 10:40that would usually be screened off fromthe main part of the hall by a screen awooden screen and that created a passageand that passage was called the screenspassage now um so that was there reallyWatch at: 10:40 / 11:00two to two if you like um screen off theentrance to the kitchen the buttery andthe pantry and if I can find it here Imight be able to show you this pictureso I just show this picture for a momentthis is actually at Penn sirs place andwe're actually standing just inside theGreat Hall you can see on the right handWatch at: 11:00 / 11:20side just the edge of the screenspassage and then you can seethese three entrances and this was avery very common arrangement so youwould have the kitchen would be thecentral range and then the buttery sorrythe kitchen would be the central archwayWatch at: 11:20 / 11:40there was often a corridor leading downinto the kitchen area and then thebuttery and the pantry would be oneither side so that was X crediblyincredibly common arrangement so theother side of the screens patches is ofcourse was the Great Hall itself or thelargest and most public chamber in anyWatch at: 11:40 / 12:00large aristocratic house it was a verypublic chamber anybody could come and goand have access to that it would be theplace that the sort of the the generalriffraff the court or the lower echelonof the court I would say would dine andwould sleep and you may still find inWatch at: 12:00 / 12:20some of the very oldest great tools pensfirst place is a brilliant of example ofwhere you had an octagonal hearth whichwhich would heat the room and then ofcourse the smoke would rise and wouldescape to a central louvre in the rootin the roof now these becameincreasingly unfashionable as the TudorWatch at: 12:20 / 12:40period progressed and most great hallsthink again the Great Hall at HamptonCourt Palace I that may or may not havehad a loo that was built in the thecurrent great hall was built in the 1530so a little later on when things wouldbegun we're beginning to change andWatch at: 12:40 / 13:00instead the great halls we're lit werewere heated by fireplaces instead ofthese central hearts then at the top endof the hall of course you've got yourhigh end of the hall and that is a wasthey the the high status end of the hallwhere you would often have this raiseddais upon which the law the lady theWatch at: 13:00 / 13:20king and queen and honored guests andfamily would dine and eat in greatpublic occasions and sometimes you maynotice that very often lighting this endof the Great Hall was it was a beautifulOriel window and that's usually thiskind of BayWatch at: 13:20 / 13:40shaped window and that that basicallywas there to light the high end of thehall so the most prestigious people hadlight falling upon them and it was alsomaybe a place to retire and have privateconversations should you so wish so manyof you I hope some of you will have seenWatch at: 13:40 / 14:00the Great Hall at Hampton Court Palaceand will know exactly what that lookslikenow from there were progressing into thenext chamber I'll just pause for amoment and say hello to Jane Janejoining us from central California wowthat sounds lovely Jane so that would beWatch at: 14:00 / 14:20the morning for you there right yeah Ithink sookay so moving on now into the greatwatching chamber so the great watchingchamber was the second most the secondlargest chamber of any Tudor house nowWatch at: 14:20 / 14:40you didn't always get great watchingchains in some of the smaller houses butcertainly in the palaces and again we'relucky enough to have the great watchingchamber that survives at Hampton CourtPalace and of course this this room waswas used in different ways it was oftenused as a dining place for again theslightly huh more high stages not theWatch at: 14:40 / 15:00highest status household officials butthe more high status household officialswere dine there during the day of courseas the name suggests it was a place inwhich also people were often you knowguards keeping watch over the theentrance to the presents chamber peopleWatch at: 15:00 / 15:20would gather and wait and watch for theking or queen to pass through if maybethey wanted to get their attention orbeg their indulgence or ask for a favorand this might be a place that theywould wait if they weren't of highenough status to get access to the nextchamber along which would be thepresence chamber so these great watchingWatch at: 15:20 / 15:40James again we're really lucky as I sayto have hampton court decorated theywould be decorated with tapestries theymight along the top third have bepainted with lovely religiouspaintings have a freeze all the wayaround the top and obviously a lovelyornate ceiling but very little furnitureWatch at: 15:40 / 16:00actually in those chambers so okay so umso hello ElizabethLiz and Flo in home so that's two of youthere that's wonderful lovely to see youwelcome and while we move on and talk alittle bit about the next chamber so Imentioned that and that is the presenceWatch at: 16:00 / 16:19chamber so it's a very important chamberparticularly in any Tudor Palace thisprincipally was the place particularlyin the early part of the 16th centurywhere the king or queen would would dinein in a in public in essence althoughWatch at: 16:19 / 16:40obviously only certain people wereallowed in the presence chambers you hadto have a certain status to be gainingaccess and it was also used as a giantchamber by the most senior householdofficials in the royal household butmost importantly of course it was also aWatch at: 16:40 / 17:00place in which the monarch or indeed youknow very very important aristocrats intheir country seats would have also hada presence chamber this is where let'sgo back to our palaces this is where theking or queen would sit on the throneagain usually on a raised dais and underWatch at: 17:00 / 17:20a canopy of estate now a canopy ofestate is that richly embroidered cloththat hung above and over the throne thethrone itself other than being raised onthe des will often sit upon very veryexpensive turkey carpet and it wasWatch at: 17:20 / 17:40absolutely prohibited that anybody butthe king or queen or I guess otherdirect members of the royal family wereallowed to stand on that carpet so itwould be here of course that the likesof Henry the eighth would receive guestsWatch at: 17:40 / 18:00foreign dignitaries ambassadors and herepetitions expectnow the presence chamber marks the lastpublic chamber in a Tudor royalhousehold from there on in we would beWatch at: 18:00 / 18:20crossing the threshold from the publicto the private and beyond and I'm justlooking at the clocks I don't want tospend too long today I'd like to keep itto around 20 minutes beyond there wewill be stepping into the Monarchsprivate domain now this was particularlyWatch at: 18:20 / 18:40true as Henry's reign progressed heretreated deeper and deeper into hisprivy chambers in order to escape theprying eyes of the court and there wasalmost like an airlock between thepresence and his next chamber his privyWatch at: 18:40 / 19:00chamber and I always think the Privychamber is a little bit like a kind of aloungeit's a place it's a private chamber it'sa place to relax to eat in private tomeet with friends family probably to ofcourse the Tudors love gambling etc sortof an evening to listen to music or toWatch at: 19:00 / 19:20to gamble at the dice or cards etc so umwell RIA we're about to enter into theprivate world of the Tudor monarchs butI think what I'm going to do is justpress pause there and perhaps next weekwe could talk about the private chambersWatch at: 19:20 / 19:40and of course there were many chamberswe had things like the privy chamberbedchamber raying chamber for examplestudy closet and so on and so forth soquite a few more rooms to talk about soum do you look out for these chambers IWatch at: 19:40 / 20:00mean I've seen versions of these atvarious different places that I've beento other manor houses often have a GreatHall you may not get a great watchingchamber but there there may well besomething akin to like a presencechamber so it's just worthwhile justWatch at: 20:00 / 20:20seeing what youread as you go through and make yourvisits so okay so Cindy's asking do anyof the canopies of state or Turkishcarpet survive mmm that's a really goodquestion I've seen bits of for examplethere's a wonderful bit of embroidery atWatch at: 20:20 / 20:40Hever Castle which has a royal coat ofarms on it I'm not sure where that camefrom but it reminds me every time I seeit of what a canopy of estate mightactually have looked like of courseyou've got to remember that just likethe crown jewels these palaces and theirWatch at: 20:40 / 21:00interiors had to survive the EnglishCivil War in the sort of 16 30s 40s andCromwell we're talking Oliver Cromwellhere as opposed to Thomas Cromwell had alot of these things dismantled takendown got rid of and of course fabricsthemselves were incredibly fragile as weWatch at: 21:00 / 21:20see from the back to an altar cloth forexample which is part of Elizabeth thefirst dress it's just managed to survivebut in quite a poor state but anyway yesa lot of a lot of the palaces themselveswere destroyed in the English Civil Warand one imagines but if the crown jewelscould be melted down and dispersed itWatch at: 21:20 / 21:40wouldn't be too hard to get rid of someof these interior fabrics andfurnishings so Rebekah saying a thankyou very interesting well thank you verymuch I don't know whether anybody elsehas got any questions about that um butwhat I did want to say is that obviouslysome of you will already be subscribedWatch at: 21:40 / 22:00to my blog WWE to do Travel Guide calmand if you do subscribe you will knowthat there are some freebies on offerthe first freebie that you will receivewould be a free digital full colordigital mini guide called your Tudor wecan wait George you don't weekend awayWatch at: 22:00 / 22:20in Kent which covers a three to twopropertieshe the castle pet says place that I wasjust talking about so you get a nicelittle guided tour of Pence's place aswell as passionately Manor gardens whichonce a Berlin property and the secondfreebie you get is actually a write-upWatch at: 22:20 / 22:40of how to Rita Tudor house so you wouldreceive your own written copy of that soif you want a little bit more detail oryou want but I'm talking about inwriting with maybe some few pictures togo along to illustrate it then why notsubscribe to the blog if you're alreadysubscribed okay so anybody elseWatch at: 22:40 / 23:00say hello to here hi Nina lovely to seeyouyes great today's blog was fascinatingso just in case for those of you who didmiss today's blog those of you who notdon't know me so well Saturday is almostalways and if I'm really really busy theWatch at: 23:00 / 23:20tutor travel guides blog day and today Iwas posting about Gainsborough old hallin Lincolnshire and I thought actuallyto make that a future of one of ourtopic of one of our future chats if youread the blog it as Anthony Emery who isa very distinguished architecturalhistorian says it's one of the mostWatch at: 23:20 / 23:40complete courtier houses of its periodin England it's got its out on a limbover there in Lincolnshire it's not onthe tourist trail but that makes it evenmore special because when you do find itand it's a very interesting place tofind if any of you have ever been itwill take your breath awayWatch at: 23:40 / 24:00it's so perfect it is as if the Tudorowners have just walked out and left itand it's got this most incredibleauthentic kind of oldie worldy vibe soRebecca's saying just read it and lovedthe article thank you very much andCindy okay I wonder why they're soWatch at: 24:00 / 24:20Cindy's saying I'll just drop drag thisin I wonder why there were a few roomsbefore you get to see the king or queenokay so um well I think the first thingis it's just about status so you've gota big property a big house you on lotsof rooms but it was it was this sort ofsense of grandeur I think of gainingWatch at: 24:20 / 24:40access to the monarch so you couldn'tjust walk in and meet- the Manik there was it I often thinkof these houses is almost like a theaterset they're very dramatic it's almostlike the theater of royalty and can youimagine arriving there you've beenWatch at: 24:40 / 25:00summoned by the king and you arrive inthe Great Hall there's lots of hubbubthe servants coming and going and thenthere's there's probably guards goingthrough into the watching chamber and itgets a little bit more tense people andperhaps a little bit dressed they mightbe kept waiting for a long period ofWatch at: 25:00 / 25:20time and then you had to be kind of Ishould through into the presence chamberbefore the throne and I didn't sayactually that even if the throne wasempty you would have curtsied or bowedto the throne because even when it wasempty it was still if you like a symbolWatch at: 25:20 / 25:40of the Kings power and authority so youhad to treat it differentially so Ithink so go back to your to yourquestion I think it's um it was almostas I say almost like this theater ofroyalty and the the not having access toWatch at: 25:40 / 26:00the king or queen made it really specialto do soso Elizabeth is st. very interestingmaybe an idea for a future video wouldbe to chat about furnishings yes itmight be now I have to say that's notsomething I've researched a lot aboutbut maybe that could be a topic for oneof my guest interviews for the YouTubeWatch at: 26:00 / 26:20streaming and in fact so I'm going on abit longer than I thought so I hopethat's okay but I'm gradually getting togrips with the technology and I'mactually hoping to move to a point wherethat I can stream directly to YouTubeand Facebook at the same time so weWatch at: 26:20 / 26:40won't have to be doing this shenanigansof Facebook one wait YouTube anotherweek but for those of you who maybemissed last week or haven't heard whatI'm trying to do is roughly three weekschat with just me talking aboutsomething usually that I have aparticular interest in or maybe that Ihave been researching that weekWatch at: 26:40 / 27:00so for example this week I'm researchingabout Thomas Cromwell's house at Austinfriars in London oh my god I found themost amazing documentit's so exciting it's like Christmastoday and floor plans elevations I'venever come across it before I'm soWatch at: 27:00 / 27:20excited by this Austin fries is a placethat really interests me I can't wait towrite about it and to share it with youanyway I'm getting off track but theidea is is that I'll be doing threeweeks of talking about something thatI've recently researching and that I canshare all that with you and then on thefourth week I'll bring a guest in who'sWatch at: 27:20 / 27:40a real expert on a particular area somaybe a leery Lynn from Hanson CourtPalace who is knows all about and justpublished a book on Tudor textiles mightbe a great person Elizabeth to bring into talk about furnishings as well asclothing so leave that one with meWatch at: 27:40 / 28:00Illyria's a fantastic speaker I knowshe'd be great at this so thank you forkeeping giving me your thumbs up andthanks Catherine always fascinating Sarathank you for your efforts or you look40 but is a book thank you thank youthank you well you know um so I thinkWatch at: 28:00 / 28:20I'm gonna bring this to a close todayI've always got too much to tell you wecould be here for quite some time butwhat we're gonna do is we're going topick up the private apartments I thinknext week and maybe the week afterAustin fryers and of course just to tellyou that the first week end in July or IWatch at: 28:20 / 28:40think that's Saturday the sixth there'sgonna be a stray sea Boorman it's gonnabe with me talking about the Tower ofLondon and we're gonna work out whatwe'd like to talk about but if you'vegot anything you'd really like to talkabout with regards to the Tower ofLondon then it would be great if youcould leave your comments here leaveWatch at: 28:40 / 29:00that for me I will be checking the chatafterwards if you're watching this videoafter the event still do leave me yourcomments as the video goes through sovideo goes through or any thoughts youhave about thehow am i chat with tracy that would begreat so i think that's probably it forWatch at: 29:00 / 29:20today I'm really happy that you've allmanaged to join me hasn't been quite somany numbers today but I think thatcould be do with a little bit oftechnical confusion over where thelivestream was going but it's beenlovely to see some old friends herethank you so much for joining me and IWatch at: 29:20 / 29:40just want to say wherever you are in theworld have a lovely rest of day and Ishall look forward to seeing you at fiveo'clock so same time British summer timefive o'clock this time next week and wecan pick up our conversation all righttake carebye[Music]

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  1. Hi, couldn’t make the talk live as I was working. Full of interesting facts and it makes me wonder how these rooms got there names! Looking forward to the next part.

  2. So interesting!! I’m so glad I’ve found you.. i now have so much to listen to. I grew up in Eltham and I remember freely wandering around Eltham palace as a child, in and out of the great hall, the gardens and over the bridge.


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